Application of Israeli Sovereignty over Judea and Samaria, 2nd Annual Conference. Organized by Women in Green.
Caroline Glick http://youtu.be/26QoV3mp6g4
A clay cylinder covered in Akkadian cuneiform script, damaged and broken, the Cyrus Cylinder is a powerful symbol of religious tolerance and multi-culturalism. In this enthralling talk Neil MacGregor, Director of the British Museum, traces 2600 years of Middle Eastern history through this single object.
Excerpts from Professor Weiss' epic opening speech before the European Parliament Conference meeting on the topic of Peace in the Middle East. Tuesday, May 15th.
“Ye shall love truth and peace,” says the prophet.
Peace cannot be based on a lie! There is no truth without peace and no peace without truth. This is written is written in the Bible and accepted in natural law. Truth is based on justice whose role is to save the oppressed from the hand of his oppressor.
The question that we face is: Who is the oppressor and who is the victim? Who is the occupier and who is being deprived? For those who are devoted to what is written in the Bible, the issues are clear and simple.
But for now, let us look at international law, which is binding, and begin with a short survey:
Professor Alan Dershowitz, a Jewish liberal, moderate leftist, and lover of Israel, one of the top legal experts in the United States, has again recently condemned the International Court of Justice at Hague for delivering political decisions.
This is in contrast to the International Criminal Court at the Hague which refused to act as a rubber stamp: It did not recognize Palestine as a state and rejected a series of proposed resolutions that Palestinians submitted against Israel for war crimes, during “Operation Cast Lead”.
Dershowitz levels lethal criticism against the UN, among others, as the leader of the double standard against Israel, and regards it as a corrupt organization that aids and abets terror.
And indeed, after three “Durban Conventions” , after the prostitution of the word ‘racism’, and after accepting Libya in 2003 as a member of the UN Commission on Human Rights, much like in May 2012 — and now in May 2012, accepting Syria to that same position as a leading member of the Commission on Human Rights and the representative of Asia — every honest person must view the UN as a cynical group whose main concern is to protect terrorism.
It is the main cause of the corruption of the ethics of human rights as formulated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights adopted by the United Nations itself, the gift to the world of the French Jew, Rene Cassin.
We have mentioned the Jewish contribution to the struggle against racism and we shall again mention that the Torah of the people of Israel, preceding every other monotheistic religion that purports to supplant it, was the first to claim that “There is one father of us all”, blacks and whites, Arabs, Germans, and Jews, and that father is Adam.
And therefore, if there is a non-racist message in the history of mankind, it is in the Torah of the people of Israel.
The religion of Israel is its national religion — and this and only this element is what defines its identity as a nation – and allows every human being the option to convert to Judaism. To be Jewish is not a matter of race or blood.
It is only barbaric peoples, who rummaged around looking for racial purity, who should rightly be called ‘racists’. For example, the Holocaust denier Mahmoud Abbas, who has said more than once that in the Palestine he envisages, there is no room for Jews.
In the same interview that Dershowitz gave to the Israeli newspaper Makor Rishon on April 27 , 2012, he says “Western society has a tremendous problem today with international law, which has become in many cases a source of evil and which serves the hardcore left and Islamist right as ammunition against the democratic values of the West (…)”
The hardcore left was never interested in law and justice. Its ideology permits the use of the law for political purposes. In his opinion, “the State of Israel must create for itself an independent corpus of international law that will be reflected in the decisions of its High Court of Justice and will be based on the principles of international law.”
…The law known as “Human Dignity and Freedom” , a Basic Law in the State of Israel, should make it illegal to expel a Jew from his own land, but does not. The entire law was legislated for the “other”. The law was designed for the Arab population but is a dead letter/ a law no longer enforced for the Jews who are known as ‘settlers’. That was what happened with the expulsion of 10,000 Jews from their land which is recognized in international law as the national home of the Jewish people alone, as we shall see shortly.
An American justice provides strong support for our position – a Jew who sits on the Federal Appellate Court, Richard Posner, who wrote a scathing critique of the judicial theory of retired Israeli High Court Justice Aharon Barak. Posner’s critique appeared in an article written on the English edition of Barak’s book Judge in a Democratic Society.
The article was published in the New Republic and in it, Posner attacks Barak in the sharpest language: “Barak establishes a world record for judicial hubris,”(…) He is a legal buccaneer”. According to Posner, his writing is “to be considered Exhibit A for why American judges should be extremely wary about citing foreign judicial decisions.[…]”
“What Barak created out of whole cloth was a degree of judicial power undreamed of even by our most aggressive Supreme Court justices […]But only in Israel (as far as I know) do judges confer the power of abstract review on themselves, without benefit of a constitutional or legislative provision. One is reminded of Napoleon’s taking the crown out of the pope’s hands and putting it on his own head.”
Let us return to the central issue: Is a Jew living in Israel in areas that were liberated by the Israeli Army in 1967 indeed a foreign occupier who is violating the Geneva Convention designed to protect human rights, to prevent the theft and dispossession of an occupied people?
And in the Land of Israel under the international law in effect today , is the Jew a foreign occupier of a territory that does not belong to him, but to a state that does not exist and never existed, a state called by the name of Palestine?
In the words of its own heads such as Yassar Arafat, Faisal Husseini, Zuhair Mohsen of the terror organization Al Saika, and even former Knesset member Azmi Bashara — all of it was invented for no other purpose than to be a Trojan horse whose reason for existing is to destroy the state of Israel.
Only a week ago, one of the Hamas leaders from Gaza was photographed imploring Egypt and complaining of the lack of raw materials. He says: We are all brothers. Half of the PA Arab families in Gaza are called al-Masri, meaning from Egypt, and they come from Egypt and the other half from Saudia Arabia. The film may be seen on Youtube.
Dr. Ohana-Arnon, in his article on the origin of the Arab immigrants, says: “Palestinian society is built on a clan or hamula system. The origin of the hamula can be learned from its name: the al-Masri hamula is from Egypt., al-Hindi from India, al-Mugrabi from Algeria, al-Ajami from Iran, al-Turki from Turkey., al-Hawari from Hawara in northern Sudan, now living in Nazareth. Al-Araqi is from Iraq (they settled in the Israeli cities of Tira and Taibeh). Abu-Kask is from Egypt settled (in the inner coastal region) Huran from Mt. Huran – Mt. Druzim south of Damascus, Bushnak from Bosnia (now in Caesarea). Masarwa –from Egypt. Habash from Ethiopia, now in Lod. Barnawi from Borno in Nigeria, now in Jerusalem, Turkeman from the Causcasus.
Not all of the Arabs in the land of Israel are immigrants, but it is foolish to ignore two basic facts: first: that from the late 19th century and until the British mandate, there was a great wave of Arab migration towards Israel, and the second – that in order to create a significant “refugee problem” UNWRA determined in an arbitrary and unprecedented manner that only two years of residence in the country before 1948 is sufficient to define a person as a Palestinian refugee for all of his life, allowing him and his descendants to demand the “right of return.
The world’s enthusiasm for the Palestinian issue does not attest to a sense of justice but to a fervent hatred of Israel. The nations say: “Let us go and destroy them from among the nations, and the name of Israel shall no longer be remembered”. This is the garden-variety brand of anti-Semitism, which must inevitably bounce back to those who launch it, when they will feel remorse and shame. The punishment for nations who try to dispossess the people of Israel from God’s land and take it over is written many times in the Book of Books. I will just refer you to one chapter regarding the nations being judged in the Valley of Jehosaphat, from the Book of Joel, chapter 4:
1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring back the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, 2 I will gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat; and I will enter into judgment with them there for My people and for My heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and divided My land. 12 Let the nations be stirred up, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat; for there will I sit to judge all the nations round about. 16 And the LORD shall roar from Zion, and utter His voice from Jerusalem, and the heavens and the earth shall shake; but the LORD will be a refuge unto His people, and a stronghold to the children of Israel. 17 So shall ye know that I am the LORD your God, dwelling in Zion My holy mountain; then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more.
This is the question that confronts us here too. Did the Jews conquer a country which was not theirs and mistreat the original inhabitants? Or perhaps it is exactly the opposite: the Arabs’ continuing conquest of the Land of Israel and now of Europe as well is the topic of the discussion.
The foreign occupation is Arab occupation – and it doesn’t matter if it began in the 7th century. The Ottoman conquest was stopped in Vienna in 1683, the Moslems conquered the Iberian Peninsula in 711 and were expelled from there hundreds of years later in the Reconquista. Rome occupied Israel and destroyed the Holy Temple on the Temple Mount in the year 70, expelling al the Jews from their land.
Everything that has been happening since is a continuation of this conquest and occupation. Each time there has been a new conqueror and occupier until the present day when the true owners of the land are finally returning and putting an end to a 2000 year occupation.
The God of Israel who has a design for human history- the God of the universe keeps an account. An account of every Jew who perished in the Holocaust, as well as in Egypt under the Pharaohs who embedded Jewish infants in bricks.
Wherever they hurt, strangled, and slaughtered Jews, the God who keeps accounts will come and when it pleases Him, He will exact payment. About that, we have no doubts…
Gunter Grass is a friend of the radical left in Israel. Grass likes to cite the influence of Israeli writer Amos Oz on the subject of Israel. The Israeli leftists deny the natural and normal right of self-defense to the State of Israel, like Charles de Gaulle who denied Israel the right to the first shot. No one denies Israel its classic right to be the victim.
Even if Israel were destroyed — God forbid — by Iran, it would not have the moral right to make a second strike, according to the Goldstone Report. Just like the Turkish response to our stopping the flotilla to Gaza, so would be the nations of the world’s reaction to an Israeli victory over Iran. That is a very sick thought.
Professor Alan Dershowitz said in his interview: “First I want to say that those Israelis are not only the greatest enemies of Israel; they are also the most dangerous”. He mentions names and adds: “These are all people who wrap themselves in the Israeli flag just so they can burn it”.
The State of Israel has been radically poisoned by accusations of occupation until it does not notice that it itself has been occupied by groups of assimilated or kowtowing Jews.
That is not to mention the anarchists who criticize us every day of the year organized and funded by authorities who turn a blind eye and abandon the army to their provocations. Israel has wittingly and unwittingly opened its gates wide to all that seek her destruction. And that is not just a metaphor. Other examples are encouraging the illegal African immigrants who come to Israel by the thousands, flooding the country
But look at yourselves in Europe today. How did you get to where you are? Was it those ideologies that deny nationalism under the guise of multiculturalism, inventing the obligation to identify with the legitimacy of the enemy’s narrative and obliterating truth as a basic tool of human existence.
Have they not destroyed morality, law, science, and the economy?
Have they not destroyed the culture of the West?
The radical left argues that nationalism, all nationalism, is the religion of the murderers. Now all over Europe we are hearing more and more voices of regret over the multicultural tactic which means Europe surrendering without firing a shot. That is the main reason that the Right is winning elections in European countries such as France, and the reason that I was invited here.
But those sleeping European leaders continue, they still continue to encourage the establishment of a Palestinian state with all the enormous resources they possess. They invest hundreds of billions into a black hole. As long as this contradiction exits, Europe will continue to turn into Eurabia.
Cosmopolitan perceptions open the doors of Europe to millions of work immigrants and give them the rights of citizens. Very soon there will be no Europe, as your host city proves. Why is the false claim that “Islam is shaking off the post-colonial conquest in Europe” not accepted in Europe, and why is it applied to Israel as an occupying nation? What is this double standard of morality?
Indeed, one of the examples of international law in the view of universal justice is found in the Bible. Certainly an enlightened individual would ask himself what is the validity of the Bible. What is the validity of God? Has he left His job or changed the rules and forgot to inform us?
Is the Bible the last refuge of the scoundrel? Church heads in the Middle East as well as extreme rightwing Islamists maintain that the Jews of today have no connection to the nation mentioned in the Bible! And indeed these things are examined every day.
The very fact that there are six million Jews in the Land of Israel today organized into a state and not like ashes that were spewed out at Auschwitz and scattered over the continent is perhaps proof that God’s power is greater than the power of all the enemies of Israel from within and from without. If so, who is right? Does justice represent only the entity by whose hand it is suppressed? Does it represent only might and woe to the vanquished?
In 1947 the Arabs refused the UN General Assembly proposal to partition the Land of Israel into two states. A recommendation which was not accepted as a decision. It was refused and the seven Arab countries launched a war against the State of Israel on its first day of existence. Israel had accepted the recommendation to partition. The Arabs were defeated in battle as usual.
But Jordan illegally occupied the territory that was designated for an Arab state that didn’t exist and never had. This occupation was recognized only by Pakistan and Great Britain. When Jordan was defeated in 1967, and expelled from the territory by the State of Israel, the territory reverted to its original owners both according to the Bible and to positivist international law of today.
What is interesting here is international law and Israel did restore to itself the territory that Britain had received as a mandate in 1920 from the League of Nations at the San Remo Conference, a mandate for a Jewish homeland in the Land of Israel. Without infringing upon the personal rights and religious rights of the non-Jewish inhabitants of the land, namely the Arabs. That is the legal status to this day.
Appearing on the website of the Land of Israel loyalists is a document, written by Yoel Lerner, a student of the legal expert Howard Grief together with Gedalia Glazar, that shows the continuity of international law and conventions on this subject.
The one who conquers territory from a conqueror wins that area. We Jews say that what is called potentially Palestine under the partition proposal known as resolution 181 was purified through Abdullah father of Hussein and with the defeat of his son , and his willing surrender of the West Bank in 1988. And the Peace Agreement between Israel and Jordan 1994, according to which Jordan gave up all her claims in the west bank.
We are not occupiers in our own homeland. That was also said by Netanyahu in his speech to both Houses of Congress last year. The Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs says the same thing, thanks to the organization that we have established “the Land of Israel Loyalists” developed by legal scholars Howard Grief, Eliav Shochetman, and Talya Einhorn.
However, because Israel law has been occupied by the left, and for other psycho-political reasons, Israel has generally refrained from using these arguments because it feels that rights which are based on the Bible are not suited to an enlightened state.
The State of Israel’s obsessive pursuit of peace, peace until the last Jew, is a dangerous compulsion that inflames the hatred of our enemies and intensifies all future war.
At times it seems that for an unattainable peace, Israel is prepared to risk the lives of its citizens and to hand over its God-given land to its enemies, not only as a recognition of the value of peace but as a desire for legitimacy which it seeks from the nations of the world, especially from its neighbors. King David, the poet of the psalms, related to this in his psalm about neighbors and peace, for example in Psalm 120:
1 A Song of Ascents. In my distress I called unto the LORD, and He answered me. 2 O LORD, deliver my soul from lying lips, from a deceitful tongue. 3 What shall be given unto thee, and what shall be done more unto thee, thou deceitful tongue? 4 Sharp arrows of the mighty, with coals of broom. 5 Woe is me, that I sojourn with Meshech, that I dwell beside the tents of Kedar! 6 My soul hath full long had her dwelling with him that hates peace. 7 I am all peace; but when I speak, they are for war.
That is why the State of Israel has been making a mistake ever since it was established when it makes so-called peace its top priority as an attainable goal, instead of decisively defeating the enemy that sees peace as only a strategy to improve their ability to destroy us.
Islam is rife with concepts involving deception such as Hudna and Tahadia which are proof of Mohammed betraying the tribe of Qurayish and his treachery against the tribes of Jews at Khayber as a symbol of his ethics in dealing with my people, the people of the Book.
To this very day the Battle of Khaybar serves as source of inspiration for Moslem soldiers in their wars, especially against Israel. During the first intifada the demonstrators shouted slogans like “Khaybar Khaybar ya yehud, Jaish Mihammad sa-yaud” meaning “Remember Khaybar, Jews, Muhammad’s army will yet return” or “Khaybar, Khaybar Jews, to Palestine we will yet return”.
Therefore one cannot sign any peace treaty with followers of Muhammad. No hudna or tahadia can be the basis of negotiations. Who in the Jewish side negotiating even tactically on the basis of these concepts can assume responsibility for the consequences of these so-called agreements, such as for example, the peace treaty with Egypt which is collapsing now with a great crash.
Peace is not a strategy.
In conclusion, I will relate in brief to the status of the Jewish people in the Land of Israel under international law. This is in complete contradiction of the false and malicious propaganda that is poisoning the entire world as though the Jewish people, acting through its representative the State of Israel, is acting in violation of international law.
It began with the Balfour Declaration in 1917 through the Weizmann-Faisal Agreement in 1919, which is the only Jewish-Arab peace agreement, then to the important resolutions of the San Remo Conference in 1920 where the international community gave the Jewish people a national homeland which included both banks of the Jordan River.
Great Britain, acting according to its standard norm, betrayed this idea in 1922 and tore off the east bank of the Jordan from the Jewish national homeland. Even after this deed of “perfidious Albion”, the resolution was approved — that the entire west bank of the Jordan belongs to the Jewish people as a national home.
According to senior jurists, this decision is in effect and binding to this very day. It was ratified among other places in Article 80 of the UN charter which recognized all of the resolutions that under the Mandate had given rights as binding resolutions.
In contrast, the 1947 partition plan was a recommendation of the UN Assembly only and remained a recommendation which was even rejected by the Arabs who responded by launching a war against Israel that very day to annihilate it. This is what caused the refugee problem which they carefully preserve to this day to use as a weapon against the state of Israel and the Jewish people and to rob the public funds.
The claims that the State of Israel is violating the Fourth Geneva Convention under which one is prohibited from expelling a population and settling another in its stead are propaganda slogans with no basis in law. As one of the top legal experts in the world has said, this is the irony of the absurd, because Israel expelled no one from the occupied territories of a state.
The ‘settlers’ went joyfully to settle in their own land as part of the Divine process of Redemption …
Those who call themselves Palestinians are not a people and they have no state. No one displaced them. Indeed, the opposite is true – Israel rehabilitated them and gave them a chance to live normal lives. The only ones in the Middle East who live this way, in what is known the Arab space, act in submission to incitement and extreme ingratitude, and use their usual culture of falsehood to fight Israel.
The Middle East has indeed collapsed.
The San Remo agreements fell because the artificial states that were created as a result of the temporary victory of the Allies in World War I was obliterated by everything that happened in the Middle East.
States like Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, and Iraq are in various stages of disintegration mainly because of their own tribal rivalries and internal religious wars.
The West did manage to maintain the situation for some one hundred years through a system of bribery. But now the end has come, together with the Arab Spring.
It is still not clear what will happen in Egypt except for chaos, but the West bears heavy responsibility for what is happening in Syria and Iraq. The fall of the Qadaffi regime has repercussions all over Africa and is causing continued bloodshed that no one can solve. The UN as usual shows itself to be a factor that encourages wars and not a peace maker.
Let the Arab and Moslem nationalists return to their national habitat, and the Jews to theirs, as Abraham divided the lands between himself and his nephew Lot and between Ishmael and his brothers, and peace and truth may you love for the sake of G-d’s name.
Professor Hillel Weiss
The author is a noted researcher in the Department of Literature of the Jewish People, Bar-llan University. He is an extra-party political activist and member of the board of the Neemanei Eretz Yisrael organization.
Мы вновь возвращаемся к вопросу «что есть власть(«малхут»)»… Дани Даян, председатель Совета поселений Иудеи и Самарии, является, правда, неким исключением на этом фоне — он возглавляет «совет поселений», но не носит кипу на голове. Он предприниматель в области хай-тека… он… своим внешним видом нас запутал…:-) Я хочу спросить тебя, Дани: может быть, проблема в том, что невозможно уклониться от политического решения ? И когда есть постоянно увеличивающаяся часть израильского общества, которая считает «Божественное указание владеть всей Эрец Исраэль» главным основанием своей политической позиции, — это определяет наше будущее ? Эти же люди, в конце концов решат создать «Государство Галахи» ?
Дани Даян(Председатель Совета поселений Иудеи и Самарии):
ОК, по вопросу о решении политичеcкой проблемы Дана сказала, что это видимо, будет «не в эту смену». Я думаю что решения нет и надо с этим жить. Но это не тема нашего обсуждения… Я мог бы облегчить себе жизнь и высказать свою точку зрения об «отделении женщин»(haдарат нашим), о «таг-мехир», т.е. о вещах, против которых я резко выступаю, но я не для этого сюда пришел. Я пришел сюда и не для того, чтобы облегчить жизнь вам.
Дана, по поводу твоих слов, что я «исключение» и о «Божественном указании» — напоминаю тебе, что основателями движения за единую и неделимую Эрец-Исраэль были Натан Альтерман, Хаим Мазаз, Моше Шамир, память о них да будет благословенна. Так что, видимо, корреляция твоя — необязательная. Может быть, что в последние годы что-то изменилось, но помни, что Бегин выступал за освобождение Иудеи и Самарии, а Моше-Хаим Шапира из МАФДАЛь — резко протестовал. Сейчас — ты права, в другое время — нет. Я работаю, чтобы и в это время секулярные евреи поняли, что без Хеврона и Бейт-Эля Государство Израиль не сможет существовать как еврейское государство, но, опять я уклоняюсь в сторону:-)
Да, я действительно горд тем, что живу в двух мирах. Как сторонник идеи «Единой и неделимой Эрец-Исраэль», я живу в идеологической среде, которая в основном консервативна и религиозна. Как человек, прoведший десятки лет жизни в хай-тек компаниях в Кирьят-Атидим и Рамат-hа-Хаяль, а также в центре сценических искусств при Музее Тель-Авива, — я также и часть другого мира. Поэтому, позвольте мне (я обещал осложнить вам жизнь 🙂 ) сказать вам все, что я думаю. Мне просто кажется, что в зале в основном присутствуют мои идеологические противники, буду рад ошибиться, конечно.
Борьба двух «течений» в израильском обществе — не между «силами». Почему ? Я вам сейчас скажу, что вы должны сделать, чтобы борьба была между «силами». Профессор Минц (декан управленческой школы) сказал здесь, что «тот, кто считает возможным разрушить поселения — пусть забудет об этой идее, т.к. посeленцы победили тем, что занимались практической деятельностью, а сторонники «двух государств для двух народов» — не делали ничего…» Невозможно победить в социальном конфликте сидя дома в кресле, невозможно победить в социальном конфликте, если уровень твоей «ответственности» — это кликнуть «like» под вчерашней статьей в «Haaretz».
Чтобы победить в социальном конфликте вы должны иметь очень глубокое чувство «посланничества«. Сейчас я вам объясню, что это такое. Это чувство — не есть «выйти когда-нибудь на демонстрацию». Вот, например, возьмем меня — я говорю это не для саморекламы, просто я — это поселенец, которого я лучше всего знаю. Я оставил Тель-Авив, город, где я вырос и который я любил. Моя жена — тоже оставила Тель-Авив, город, где она выросла и который очень любила. Нам было очень хорошо в Тель-Авиве. В культурном, гастрономическом и потребительском смыслах. Мы переселились в маленькое поселение в Западной Самарии — т.к. мы пришли к выводу, что ЭТО — то, что мы должны сделалть, чтобы победить в том конфликте, в котором все мы находимся. Мой друг всю жизнь прожил в Кфар-hа-Роэ — он всегда мечтал жить у моря, но сегодня он живет в горах, т.к. именно это то, что надо делать для Государства Израиль. Каждый день мы просыпаемся в этом месте (о котором я не уверен, что оно — то место где я бы хотел просыпаться — из-за удобств) — чтобы победить. Когда с другой стороны (израильского общества) будет такое же чувство «посланничества» — конфликт станет конфликтом сил.
Меня рассмешила фраза (может быть и не напрямую относящаяся к конкретному конфликту): «Ясно, что палатки на бульваре Ротшильда разберут точно зимой, ведь зимой идет дождь» 🙂 Вы знаете, в каких условиях возводили Себастию ? Так побеждают ! Сидите под дождем и так победите… !
Дана Вайс:
Извините, я вынуждена вмешаться. Вы побеждаете — значит ли это, что вы измените характер Государства ? Вы превратите его в «государство галахи» ?
Дани Даян:
Нет ! Борьба не может быть эгоистичной. Если борьба — за то, чтобы МНЕ платить меньше за квартиру, а на то, сколько ты, Дана, будешь платить — мне наплевать, — так не пойдет. Борьба должна быть альтруистской, ради общей цели, не связанной с личной выгодой.
И, наконец, борьба должна быть «ЗА», а не «ПРОТИВ». Есть всякие «стратегические PR консультанты», советующие проводить «негативную кампанию», «кампанию ненависти». Знаете, «Шинуй» удержала бы свои 15 мандатов, если бы вместо роспуска Министерства по делам религий, она бы протолкнула открытие общественного транспорта по субботам.
Но «Шиную» было важнее всего показать кузькину мать харедим. Поэтому этот конфликт не был настоящим и с 15 мандатов они опустились до 0…
Дана, возвращаясь к твоему вопросу. Нет и нет ! Когда я слышу слова человека, которого я очень уважаю, — профессора Рубинштейна здесь, или слова Алика Рона, я прошу прощения, но мне просто смешно. Почему ? Говорить, что «либеральная демократия в Израиле в опасности» ?! Это полный абсурд ! Профессор Рубинштейн хочет либеральной демократии при условии, что все будут как он. Он не хочет видеть усиливающиеся в этой демократии меньшинства. Абсурд ! Либеральная демократия в Израиле не находится в опасности, «поселенцы»…
Дана Вайс:
А Фейглин ?
Дани Даян:
Я не «спец» по Фейглину, но думаю, что ты ошибаешься. Демократия не под угрозой. Происходит вот что: элитарная группа, видя, как власть уходит из ее рук, использует запугивание и демагогию, чтобы эту власть сохранить. Вот и все.
Дана Вайс:
Дани, можешь ли ты сейчас здесь прилюдно подтвердить, что придя к власти, вы сохраните демократию такой, как она есть ? Не изменится статус секулярных евреев и арабов ?
Дани Даян:
Однозначно да. Я в этом уверен. Я хочу добавить еще вот что: я не принимаю слов проф. Рубинштейна о том, что т.н. «либеральный лагерь» не выходит на борьбу потому, что он «избалован». Этот лагерь не выходит на борьбу потому, что эта борьба — НЕ НАСТОЯЩАЯ(ложная). Я приведу пример того, как «либеральный лагерь» вышел на борьбу и победил в ней, т.к. она была справедливой борьбой за восстановление попранных прав. Я имею в виду деятельность организаций, представляющих «сексуальные меньшинства». Эти люди почувствовали, что их права действительно попраны, вышли на борьбу и за последние 20 лет добились больших успехов. Поэтому, дело не в «избалованности»…
Дана Вайс:
Сюда придут Дафни Лиф и Став Шапир и скажут: мы работаем, платим налоги и т.д…
Дани Даян:
А чем по-твоему занимаются поселенцы ? Тем же самым ! 🙂 Так что пожалуйста, вот именно этот мяч мне не передавай, ОК ? Если борьба не за правду, она обречена. А мы видим, что противоположный лагерь борется за сохранение своей гегемонии.
Здесь высказывались осуждения попыткам принять закон об ограничении финансирования израильских общественных организаций зарубежными правительствами. Друзья, конечно, вы можете не соглашаться со мной, но знайте, что я смотрю на проблему с т.з. самых крайних «западных либеральных ценностей» — нет с этим законом никаких проблем ! Закон, говорящий, что правительство страны А не может финансировать политические организации в стране Б — это азы демократии ! Факт, что этот закон не принят — и есть диверсия против демократии. И когда я читаю «Haaretz», слушаю речи Моше Негби на радио, о том, что существует «опасность для израильской демократии», если этот закон будет принят, я понимаю что такое ложь. В дни, когда Аарон Барак возглавлял Верховный суд, была насажена идеология, которая является ОДНОЙ ИЗ легитимных демократических идеологий, но ни в коем случае не является единственно легитимной. В США человек правых консервативных взглядов может быть судьей Верховного суда и даже возглавить этот суд. Однако, Рут Габизон, из-за своего мировоззрения, не стала судьей Верховного суда Израиля. Поэтому, нужно понимать и видеть где ложь и где опасность. Дорит Бейниш сказала месяц назад, что судейство — профессия, и судьи должны выбираться согласно своим профессиональным способностям, а не согласно своему мировоззрению. Я надеюсь, что она действительно так думает. На практике — нет ничего, что дальше этого от действительности. Сейчас происходит революция против клики, овладевшей (в техническом смысле — демократичеcким путем, но против «духа демократии») Верховным судом и определяющей — что можно, а что нельзя. Эта революция должна продолжаться.
A TOUR OF PALESTINE; THE YEAR IS 1695 by Avi Goldreich
(Translated from the Hebrew by Nurit Greenger.)
The time machine is a sensation that nests in me when I am visiting Mr. Hobber old books store in Budapest, Hungary. Hobber learned to know my quirks and after the initial greeting and the glass of mineral water (Mr. Hobber is a vegan) he leads me down the stairs to the huge basement, to the Jewish «section.»
The Jewish section is a room full of antiquity books on subjects that Mr. Hobber sees to be Jewish. Among the books there are some that are not even worthy their leather binding. However, sometime, one can find there real culture treasure. Many of the books are Holy Books that may have been stolen from synagogues’ archives: Talmud, Bible, Mishnah, old Ashkenazi style Siddur, and others. Customarily, I open them to see who the proprietor is; who was the Bar Mitzvah boy who received the book two hundred years ago and to whom did he pass the book at the end of his days. It is simply curiosity.
Many of the books are written in the German language. They are books of Jewish rumination written by Christians or assimilating Jews. Sometime one can find a hand written Talmud volume that is very expensive; thousands of Euros, set in the specially aired cabinet. Hobber knows their value. Sometime one can find a bargain such as the book Palestina by Hadriani Relandi — its original professional name Palaestina, ex monumentis veteribus illustrata, published by Trajecti Batavorum: Ex Libraria G. Brodelet, 1714. One can find such original books in only few places in the world, also in Haifa University. Go to http://libri-antichi.posizionamento-web.it/ palaestina-ex-monumentis-veteribus-illustrata.html for places where the book could be found and details about the author, etc.
The author Relandi[1], a real scholar, geographer, cartographer and well known philologist, spoke perfect Hebrew, Arabic and ancient Greek, as well as the European languages. The book was written in Latin. In 1695 he was sent on a sightseeing tour to Israel, at that time known as Palestina. In his travels he surveyed approximately 2500 places where people lived that were mentioned in the bible or Mishnah. His research method was interesting.
He first mapped the Land of Israel.Secondly, Relandi identifies each of the places mentioned in the Mishnah or Talmud along with their original source. If the source was Jewish, he listed it together with the appropriate sentence in the Holy Scriptures. If the source was Roman or Greek he presented the connection in Greek or Latin.
Thirdly, he also arranged a population survey and census of each community.
His most prominent conclusions1. Not one settlement in the Land of Israel has a name that is of Arabic origin. Most of the settlement names originate in the Hebrew, Greek, Latin or Roman languages. In fact, till today, except to Ramlah, not one Arabic settlement has an original Arabic name. Till today, most of the settlements names are of Hebrew or Greek origin, the names distorted to senseless Arabic names. There is no meaning in Arabic to names such as Acco (Acre), Haifa, Jaffa, Nablus, Gaza, or Jenin and towns named Ramallah, El Halil and El-Kuds (Jerusalem) lack historical roots or Arabic philology. In 1696, the year Relandi toured the land, Ramallah, for instance, was called Bet’allah (From the Hebrew name Beit El) and Hebron was called Hebron (Hevron) and the Arabs called Mearat HaMachpelah El Chalil, their name for the Forefather Abraham.
2. Most of the land was empty, desolate, and the inhabitants few in number and mostly concentrate in the towns Jerusalem, Acco, Tzfat, Jaffa, Tiberius and Gaza. Most of the inhabitants were Jews and the rest Christians. There were few Muslims, mostly nomad Bedouins. Nablus, known as Shchem, was exceptional, where approximately 120 people, members of the Muslim Natsha family and approximately 70 Shomronites, lived.
In the Galilee capital, Nazareth, lived approximately 700 Christians and in Jerusalem approximately 5000 people, mostly Jews and some Christians.
The interesting part was that Relandi mentioned the Muslims as nomad Bedouins who arrived in the area as construction and agriculture labor reinforcement, seasonal workers.
In Gaza for example, lived approximately 550 people, fifty percent Jews and the rest mostly Christians. The Jews grew and worked in their flourishing vineyards, olive tree orchards and wheat fields (remember Gush Katif?) and the Christians worked in commerce and transportation of produce and goods. Tiberius and Tzfat were mostly Jewish and except of mentioning fishermen fishing in Lake Kinneret — the Lake of Galilee — a traditional Tiberius occupation, there is no mention of their occupations. A town like Um el-Phahem was a village where ten families, approximately fifty people in total, all Christian, lived and there was also a small Maronite church in the village (The Shehadah family).
3. The book totally contradicts any post-modern theory claiming a «Palestinian heritage,» or Palestinian nation. The book strengthens the connection, relevance, pertinence, kinship of the Land of Israel to the Jews and the absolute lack of belonging to the Arabs, who robbed the Latin name Palestina and took it as their own.
In Granada, Spain, for example, one can see Arabic heritage and architecture. In large cities such as Granada and the land of AndalucÃa, mountains and rivers like Guadalajara, one can see genuine Arabic cultural heritage: literature, monumental creations, engineering, medicine, etc. Seven hundred years of Arabic reign left in Spain an Arabic heritage that one cannot ignore, hide or camouflage. But here, in Israel there is nothing like that! Nada, as the Spanish say! No names of towns, no culture, no art, no history, and no evidence of Arabic rule; only huge robbery, pillaging and looting; stealing the Jews’ holiest place, robbing the Jews of their Promised Land. Lately, under the auspices of all kind of post modern Israelis — also hijacking and robbing us of our Jewish history.
Footnote
[1] From http://www.answers.com: «Adrian Reland (1676-1718), Dutch Orientalist, was born at Ryp, studied at Utrecht and Leiden, and was professor of Oriental languages successively at Harderwijk (1699) and Utrecht (1701). His most important works were Palaestina ex monumentis veteribus illustrata (Utrecht, 1714), and Antiquitates sacrae veterum Hebraeorum.»
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Given the importance of this article, this is the original Hebrew text:
השנה 1695 — הארץ היתה ריקה ברובה, שוממה, ותושביה היו מועטים והתרכזו בערים ירושלים, עכו, צפת, יפו, טבריה ועזה. רוב התושבים בערים היו יהודים והאחרים היו נוצרים, היו מעט מאוד מוסלמים שבדרך כלל היו בדואים. חברים, אין דבר כזה עם פלסטינאי, לא היה ולעולם לא יהיה. מדובר בפיקציה של הערבים בעידוד השמאל הישראלי הסובל ממחלת נפש קשה של שינאה עצמית ומשתף פעולה עם הגרועים שבאויבינו.
מכונת זמן, זו התחושה המקננת בי כשאני נמצא בחנות הספרים העתיקים של מר הובר בבודפסט.
הובר למד להכיר את שגיונותי, ולאחר ברכת השלום וכוס המיים המינרליים (מר הובר הוא טבעוני-צמחוני) מוביל אותי במדרגות למרתף הענק והמאוורר, לאגף ה»יהודי».האגף היהודי הוא חדר ובו ספרים עתיקים בנושאים שנראים למר הובר יהודים. בין הספרים ישנם כאלה שאינם שווים את כריכת העור שלהם אולם לעיתים נדירות אפשר למצוא שם אוצרות תרבות של ממש.
הרבה מאוד הם ספרי קודש ישנים שנגנבו אולי ממרתפי הגניזה שבבתי הכנסת, כרכי תלמוד, תנ»ך, משניות, שולחן ערוך, סידורים ישנים נוסח אשכנז. אני נוהג לפתחם כדי לראות מי הבעלים, מי הנער שקיבל את הספר לבר המצווה לפני מאתיים שנה, ולמי העניק אותו בערוב ימיו. סקרנות.
הרבה מהספרים כתובים בגרמנית, והם ספרי הגות על היהדות שנכתבו בכלל בידי נוצרים או יהודים מתבוללים.
לפעמים מוצאים איזה כרך תלמוד שנכתב בכתב יד, אלה יקרים מאוד, מאות אלפי אירו ומונחים בארון זכוכית מאוּורר. הובר יודע את ערכם. ולפעמים ישנן מציאות כמו הספר Palestina של Hadriani relandi מקורי בשמו ה»מקצועי», palaestina ex monumentis veteribus illustrata, המו»ל הוא, Trajecti Batavorum: Ex Libraria G. Brodelet, 1714.
ניתן למצוא כמה ספרים מקוריים כאלה במספר מקומות בעולם ואף באוניברסיטת חיפה. אפשר לראות כאןאת המקומות בהם הספר נמצא וגם אפשר למצוא פרטים על המחבר ועוד.הנחיות צפיה במצגת:
לדיפדוף בין התמונות לחץ על החיצים. לחיצה על כל תמונה תגדיל אותה במסגרת נפרדת ולחיצה נוספת תגדיל אותה שוב.
המחבר רילאנדי, איש אשכולות של ממש, גיאוגרף, קרטוגרף ופילולוג ידע על בוריין עברית, ערבית ויוונית עתיקה, בנוסף לשפות האירופאיות. שפת הספר היא לטינית. בשנת 1695 הוא נשלח לסיור בארץ ישראל או בשמה דאז פלסטינה. במסעו הוא סקר כ-2500 מקומות יישוב המוזכרים בתנ»ך או במשנה.שיטת המחקר שלו היתה מעניינת. ראשית, מיפה את ארץ ישראל. שנית, רילאנדי זיהה את כל אחד מהמקומות המוזכרים במשנה או בתלמוד עם מקור שמו. אם מקור השם יהודי, הביא את הפסוק המתאים בכתבי הקודש. אם מקור השם רומי או יווני הביא ביוונית או בלטינית את ההקשר. שלישית הוא אף ערך סקר ומפקד אוכלוסין לכל מקום יישוב.
המסקנות הבולטות הן:
אף ישוב בארץ ישראל אינו בעל מקור שם ערבי. שמות היישובים הם ברובם ממקור עברי, או יווני או לטיני-רומי. עד היום, למעשה, אף ישוב ערבי (להוציא רמלה) אינו נושא שם ערבי מקורי. רוב שמות היישובים הם ממקור עברי או יווני ששובש לערבית חסרת משמעות. אין שום משמעות בערבית לשמות עכו, חיפה, יפו, נבלוס, עזה או ג’נין ושמות ערים כמו רמאללה, אל-חליל ואל-קודס חסרים שורשים היסטוריים או פילולוגיים ערביים. בשנת 1696, שנת הסיור, רמאללה, למשל, נקראה בתא’לה (בית אל), חברון נקראה חברון ומערת המכפלה נקרא על ידי הערבים אל חליל (כינוי לאברהם אבינו).הארץ היתה ריקה ברובה, שוממה, ותושביה היו מועטים והתרכזו בערים ירושלים, עכו, צפת, יפו, טבריה ועזה. רוב התושבים בערים היו יהודים והאחרים היו נוצרים, היו מעט מאוד מוסלמים שבדרך כלל היו בדואים. יוצאת מהכלל נבלוס, היא שכם שבה ישבו כ-120 איש ממשפחת נאטשה המוסלמית וכ-70 איש שומרונים.
בנצרת, בירת הגליל, היו כ-700 איש – כולם נוצרים.
בירושלים כ-5000 איש, רובם יהודים ומיעוטם נוצרים.
המעניין הוא שאת המוסלמים מזכיר רינאלדי כשבטים בדואים נודדים, שהגיעו כפועלים עונתיים כדי לשמש ככח עזר בחקלאות או בבנין. בעזה, למשל, היו כ-550 איש; חמישים אחוז מהם יהודים והשאר נוצרים. היהודים עסקו בחקלאות משגשגת של כרמים, זיתים וחיטה (גוש קטיף) והנוצרים עסקו במסחר ובהובלת התוצרת.
בטבריה ובצפת היה ישוב יהודי, אולם לא מוזכרים העיסוקים להוציא דייג בכנרת, מקצוע טברייני מסורתי. עיר כמו אום אל-פאחם למשל, היתה כפר בן 10 משפחות, כולן נוצריות, כחמישים נפש, וכן כנסייה מרונית קטנה (משפחת שחאדה).
הספר סותר לחלוטין תיאוריות פוסט-מודרניסטיות על »מורשת פלסטינית» או עם פלסטיני, ומאשש ומחזק את השייכות של ארץ ישראל ליהודים ואת חוסר שייכותה המוחלט לערבים, ששדדו אפילו את השם הלטיני פלסטינה וניכסו אותו לעצמם.
בספרד למשל, בגרנדה, רואים מורשת ובניה ערבית. ערים ענקיות כמו גרנדה ומדינה כמו אנדלוסיה, הרים, נהרות כמו גוואדאלחארה, מורשת תרבותית ערבית של ממש: ספרות, יצירות פאר, הנדסה, רפואה ועוד.
700 שנות שלטון ערבי הותירו בספרד מורשת שלא ניתן להסתירה או להסוותה.
ואילו כאן כלום, נאדה, לא שמות ערים, לא תרבות, לא אמנות, לא היסטוריה, לא עדויות לשלטון ערבי.
רק שוד וגזל, גזל המקום הקדוש ביותר ליהודים, גזל הארץ המובטחת ליהודים. לאחרונה בחסות כל מיני ישראלים פוסט מודרניסטים – גזל ההיסטוריה.
Avi Goldreich is an Israeli, who travels extensively, mainly in west and east Europe to search out and locate Jewish property and treasures — books, arts and craft and the like that belonged and still belong to Jews or Jewish communities — to return them to the owners: the Jewish Nation and Jews.» Contact Avi Goldreich by email at aGoldreich@gmx.de The original article was published August 4, 2007 at http://www.faz.co.il/story?id=4457&base=&NewOnly=1&LastView=2030-12-31
It was translated from the Hebrew by Nurit Greenger, who writes: «[This book is] One more source of truth that the Arabs’ claim to any place in Eretz Yisrael — the Land of Israel — is total fabrication and one of the greatest farces even perpetrated upon the world.» Greenger can be contacted by email at 4nuritg@ca.rr.com. Visit her website at http://ngthinker.typepad.com
The author Relandi[1], a real scholar, geographer, cartographer and well known philologist, spoke perfect Hebrew, Arabic and ancient Greek, as well as the European languages. The book was written in Latin. In 1695 he was sent on a sightseeing tour to Israel, at that time known as Palestina. In his travels he surveyed approximately 2500 places where people lived that were mentioned in the bible or Mishnah. His research method was interesting.
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